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Offline TrickyMicky

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Road Safety???
« on: March 03, 2026, 11:16:27 PM »
Greetings one and all, the attached was found in my email inbox, and I could not believe that this could be allowed. We moan about car drivers taking their eyes off the road to play with their toys, now it's being offered to us!  Cannot even see the speedo, warning lights etc.  In the second photo (hopefully) the controls that need to be operated by the left hand are beyond belief, and yes, I have cropped out the name on purpose to save my skin.

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2026, 07:06:10 AM »
I absolutely agree. I detest any gadget that detracts me from driving. I don't even listen to music when I'm driving my car let alone a motorcycle. The only noise I want to hear is wind noise and my exhaust. I often wonder how many accidents have been caused by cruise control, I've been riding and driving for over 45 years and I've always managed without one.
Theres no denying that SatNav is a handy tool, but again, I've managed without one.
I would imagine my old RAC ACU instructor having a meltdown if he saw this device. His words would be keep your eyes on the road, on your intruments and on your mirrors at the same time.

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2026, 08:48:39 AM »
Yeah, 'the build-in distraction', sales pitched as 'feature' is flooding over from the car sector...  :-\

https://www.heise.de/en/opinion/Comment-on-the-operational-safety-of-modern-motorcycles-Built-in-distraction-11179203.html

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2026, 09:55:24 AM »
Our car has far too many controls that need to be accessed via a touch screen, it has some voice control that needs a pretty fixed script to work. Bring back manual controls & switches.
The idea of touchscreen is madness on a motorbike.

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2026, 12:48:36 PM »
Bring back manual controls & switches.
Yeah... back when climate control design peaked: 3 knobs, 2 buttons...

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A friend's wife has an NC750X...
Most of its Owner's Manual is about the setup of the TFT screen...  :o
Methinks she still hasn't figured out half of it...
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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2026, 01:26:40 PM »
You start to wonder if all these complications are just the designers'  way of keeping their jobs!!  I'm sure we all know of vehicles where you need the instruction manual just to reset the clock from winter to summer, I have a digital clock in my garage, and there is a button which I press once to advance it one hour, and if I press it again it goes back one hour. What could be simpler?  I consider any vehicle that needs the driver to look at and touch a screen whilst driving is not fit for purpose, and should never have been giver a certificate of initial fitness.
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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2026, 01:28:08 PM »
I like to keep it simple. Too much tech is definitely distracting and ott.
My 400f has all the controls I need, my Triumph has even less, not even a kill switch! Although I have thought of adding one for safety.

My current 'box' is a Skoda SUV and the tech in that is ridiculous!  I don't use most of it. Touch screen for this that and the other, voice control which is a P.I.A. It doesn't get it right most of the time, so I have to try again and again. It's easier to do it manually. If I'm talking to a passenger the voice control butts in because it thinks I'm giving it instructions! Very distracting!

And don't get me started on the 'Speed control' and 'Lane control' warnings which I have to switch off every single time I start the engine. 😫
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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2026, 03:10:21 PM »
surely this is just a joke.

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2026, 09:46:49 AM »
As I understand it these screens can plug into the canbus on the BMW and mirror the BMW screen as well as be controlled from the 'wonder wheel'. They are also much clearer to read and can display sat nav at the same time. Making it one screen to control them all.
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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2026, 11:31:22 AM »
surely this is just a joke.

I'm afraid not. 😟

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2026, 01:09:55 PM »
Way too clever and distracting for me, I am positive that we only use about 5% of the gadgets that our car is equiped with, a bit like our iphones, way too clever for us.

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2026, 04:41:50 PM »
I have two cars, one from 1968 and the other is from 1994, so no screens for me.

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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2026, 06:43:29 PM »
Many London cyclists seem to have something like this already. Yet last year my GF got banned from driving for six months after being caught using her phone while stationary in traffic. OK, she had a fair few points already.
But my point is the cyclists in London seem to be immune from prosecution.
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Re: Road Safety???
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2026, 07:00:02 PM »
Try driving an artic arround cyclists, no matter what stupid stuff they do its your fault!!!

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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2026, 10:32:03 AM »
Try driving an artic arround cyclists, no matter what stupid stuff they do its your fault!!!

That reminds me of when we lived in Thailand, motorbikes were the poor peoples transport so no matter what the situation you were always in the wrong if you hit one when driving.
You could be sitting at traffic lights surounded by bikes, in front and on the left and right, the ones on the left could turn right in front of you and the ones on the left could could turn right.Note the Thais like us drive on the left.
We watched a video in a bar one night and a clip came on showing a motorbike sneak through a railway level crossing and get hit by a train, immediately the Thais chorused that it was the train drivers fault.
We had two incidents were bikers were hit by one our work colleagues, both were whisked out of the country the same night by our company.
If you hit a bike no matter what the circumstances were you were liable for repairs to the bike, the riders loss of earnings and their medical treatment and families loss.
The Thai lawyers used to go all out on expats caught out like this.

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