Tyres Help

[Sesman]

I use Avon road rider mkII, without complaint.

[badger_eng]

👍

[deltarider]

It's not my habit to pass on negative reviews from other fora. In this case I made an exception. This was the reason:

I also asked Michelin about this and learned that the Road Classic isn't suitable for the CB 500 Four.
Michelin recommends the Active Road or something similar

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And other comments in that same thread: https://cbfourclub.de/cbfourum/viewtopic.php?p=70875&hilit=michelin+road+classic#p70875 I select just one:

I have the exact same problems described here on my CB 750 K2, with a 3.25 front tire and a Michelin Road Classic. Both tires are brand new, front and rear.

The front end bounces, vibrates, and shakes; nothing I know of calms it down while riding. Especially between 60 and 100 km/h, the vibrations become so intense that my forearms tingle uncomfortably after just 25 km. Riding is absolutely no fun.

Like Howard, I've tried a lot of things to eliminate the problems, but there's no real solution, at best, only a slight shift in the symptoms.

Even increasing and decreasing the tire pressure to extremes, or test rides with two people and a heavy backpack, always lead to the same result.

I've never experienced anything like this in over 50 years of riding.

Again, I (DR) have no opinion on this. It's been an exception for me to pass such on.

[badger_eng]

It makes you wonder doesn’t it,,,,

“What’s the angle”

I can’t say I’ve seen one single online retailer who sells them or Michelin directly advertising that these tyres are NOT suitable for Honda CB500’s

[Skoti]

It's not my habit to pass on negative reviews from other fora. In this case I made an exception. This was the reason:

I also asked Michelin about this and learned that the Road Classic isn't suitable for the CB 500 Four.
Michelin recommends the Active Road or something similar

...
And other comments in that same thread: https://cbfourclub.de/cbfourum/viewtopic.php?p=70875&hilit=michelin+road+classic#p70875 I select just one:

I have the exact same problems described here on my CB 750 K2, with a 3.25 front tire and a Michelin Road Classic. Both tires are brand new, front and rear.

The front end bounces, vibrates, and shakes; nothing I know of calms it down while riding. Especially between 60 and 100 km/h, the vibrations become so intense that my forearms tingle uncomfortably after just 25 km. Riding is absolutely no fun.

Like Howard, I've tried a lot of things to eliminate the problems, but there's no real solution, at best, only a slight shift in the symptoms.

Even increasing and decreasing the tire pressure to extremes, or test rides with two people and a heavy backpack, always lead to the same result.

I've never experienced anything like this in over 50 years of riding.

Again, I (DR) have no opinion on this. It's been an exception for me to pass such on.

Oh no here we go again everyone, hold on tight to your bags of popcorn.

[badger_eng]

LOL, salted or buttered?

[taysidedragon]

LOL, salted or buttered?

😄 Very tyre-ing!

[badger_eng]

Let’s not go where people fear to tread!

[DomP]

I use Avon road rider mkII, without complaint.

Ive got road rider II on my cb550, i had the wheels powdercoated and have struggled to get the front seated fully.  Nice looking tyre though.

[florence]

On Saturday, I went on a 312 mile round trip to the Long Mynd and rode at varying speeds.  My tyres were faultless in all conditions, town, country, motorway.  They are by far the best handling tyres I have used on my 500 in the last 30 years.
 
The important thing to note is Michelin Road Classic is a bias belted tyre and should not be mixed with other belting types.  I replaced my tyres as a pair so they are compatible and contemporary with one another.  Also, I question whether, in anecdotes referring to problems, they have been fitted correctly including direction of rotation etc?

South Shropshire is beautiful, especially at this time of year.

[Nashfly]

I've been using the Avon Roadrider tyres for years, but they are no longer available.

I'm now using Michelin Road Classics on my CB500 four. I contacted Michelin regarding oressues and the original Honda settings (26f 28r) worked perfectly for me 11 1/2 stone (161lbs)

[K2-K6]

I usesilicone grease (silicone historically used as release agent in tyre manufacturing) on the beads when installing them.

Making clear ..... this is absolutely the minimum and sparsely applied to only bead, both inside (air void) to help then slide onto rim, and the internal/external "active" bead area to  give movement and alignment when pressure is established.

Firstly it makes them much easier to install if doing this yourself. Secondly, it then pops onto it's location with far greater consistency and ultimately with very accurate alignment of the carcass. I typically see less than 1/2 mm in lateral or radial run out when checked afterwards. They will usually finally locate under 40 psi pressure too.

Silicone has the benefit of being non corrosive promoting too, in comparison to some ad hoc soaps used in this application.  With tyre manufacturers producing tight tolerance for tubeless tyres, that seems to have followed into manufacturer of tubed type too, whereas a long while ago there was more variation in product.

It only needs a small hangup on beed in one location (usually the  final pop on location on installation) to give the carcass a distinct wobble in it's section, that's regardless of the alignment mark concentricity in relation to rim edge. Using the above method, theresfar more reliability to installation process in accuracy.  Just a small waver in centering alignment will give problems in steering wobble.