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Re: rewire - what size/spec of wire
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2013, 07:50:18 PM »
ha , found in in the haynes manual circuit diagram for the 550F... its not a diode , its a silicon rectifier and is indeed to do with the clutch switch. Jut looked at my 500K1 , there is no green / red wire in the LHS handlebar controls sub loom ... so I'll just ignore the green/red wire that terminates in the headlamp heel and would have been intente to link to the clutch switch in the 550F ;) .... this forum is great.
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Re: rewire - what size/spec of wire
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 08:27:20 PM »
Hi Ewan,
                 Head in the sand is often the least aggro when dealing with non-standard wiring, just thrown my yoshi wiring away and got a load of 2mm and1mm wiring and a big fistful of connectors--ha-ha-- at least I have got some professional crimp tools from my working days-----Ken

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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2013, 09:21:54 PM »
Hi Ewan,
                 Head in the sand is often the least aggro when dealing with non-standard wiring, just thrown my yoshi wiring away and got a load of 2mm and1mm wiring and a big fistful of connectors--ha-ha-- at least I have got some professional crimp tools from my working days-----Ken

where'd you go for your connectors Ken .. got some from VWP but they look a bit lightweight
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Re: rewire - what size/spec of wire
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2013, 09:24:51 PM »
photo of the family bike, more of a rattle box than the 500 ! More electrics .. its headlamps and indicators have gone AWOL
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Re: rewire - what size/spec of wire
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2013, 08:18:35 AM »
Hi again Ewan,
Bullets avail here (Japanese 3.9mm) as one possible source. (Tho' you've likely found it already)
Cheers.

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product_list/6

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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2013, 04:10:56 PM »
Hi Ewan
               I bought mine from            http://www.sgmotorsport.co.uk/

             That does not mean they are the best available, I think most of bullet crimps on the mrket are much of a sameness, the main choice is brass or tin plated, and I think the latter may resist corrosion a bit better----Ken

             

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Re: rewire - what size/spec of wire
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2013, 09:00:23 PM »
hmm, I have some from ages ago that are brass coloured and bought off ebay .. then I have some silver coloured ones from VWP and I thought were more rubbishy looking .... but must be the better tin plated ones. (must have been the "almost gold" connotations of the ebay ones that threw me . So .. price comparison between tin plated bullets fromVehicle Wiring Procucts,  Auto Electrical Supplies and SG Motorsports 

SGM : 40 males / females & sleeves = £15.47 + VAT
VWP : 50 males/females & sleeves = £6.94 + VAT
AES:   50 males/females & sleeves = £11.36 + VAT

Are they identical product at different prices or do I go for the more is more philospohy and order from SGM

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SGM:  http://www.sgmotorsport.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=9
VWP: http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/terminalsnonins/noninsbullets.php
AES: http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/32/category/6

hmmm
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Re: rewire - what size/spec of wire
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2013, 09:37:16 PM »
more hmm., the three os them sell an identical crimping tool. Prices are:
VWP : £8.95   (£15.48 inc VAT & delivery)
AES:  £11.66  (£18.49 inc VAT & delivery)
SGM: £13.97  (£17.57 inc VAT & delivery.. although looks like they've undercalculated teh VAT ,a s the otyher two add 20% VAT onto the delivery charge

off to VWP for more bullets then !
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2013, 02:50:24 PM »
breaking news , SG motosports willing to match VWP price on bullets :)
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2013, 02:56:50 PM »
 8) I need to get all this together for a winter project.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Set/sit. Bought/brought FFS. Bloody Americans.


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Re: rewire - what size/spec of wire
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2013, 09:30:57 PM »
i suppose the best thing to do is put all the earth circuit on and then add each sub circuit one at a time testing as you go along (maybe)  ???
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2013, 10:44:04 PM »
Sounds like a plan. I'm going to start with the circuit that uses the most same coloured wire, the just work down to the least used. My simple thinking.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Set/sit. Bought/brought FFS. Bloody Americans.


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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2013, 08:38:48 AM »
couple of handy links in here Lester: the colorada one gives the basics of construction and tool ude, the John Partridge one is a ful on comprehsive piece on vehicle electrics.

http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-technical-talk/229345-idiots-guide-to-making-your-own-motorcycle-wiring-harness.html
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2013, 07:39:12 PM »

Hi,
          Maybe I should ask for commission ;D       
breaking news , SG motosports willing to match VWP price on bullets


        On  with the subject, when I am wiring up I tend to use as simple a system as possible and wire circuit by circuit, and I start by drawing each circuit and compare it with the main diagram, start with say alternator to rectifier, then field coil to regulator, thats the generation side done, then work through the others, doing the main earth early also helps-----Ken
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2013, 07:44:33 PM »

Hi,
          Maybe I should ask for commission ;D       
breaking news , SG motosports willing to match VWP price on bullets


        On  with the subject, when I am wiring up I tend to use as simple a system as possible and wire circuit by circuit, and I start by drawing each circuit and compare it with the main diagram, start with say alternator to rectifier, then field coil to regulator, thats the generation side done, then work through the others, doing the main earth early also helps-----Ken
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Thanks Ken .. think my plan was to start with the earth wiring , never done this before, but surely cant be worse than respoking a wheel ;) ... went on a diversionary tactict today and went and got some new avon rubber for my new shiny rims.. got home and noticed that the front is on the wrong way rouund
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