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MikeM
SOHC Expert
Posts: 272
fork oil seals
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April 03, 2014, 02:13:31 PM »
want to make sure these will not cause any issues
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB550K-Four-1974-78-Front-Fork-Oil-Seals-QR354810-/321143607716?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4ac5a691a4
also do you guys take allen bolt out first or top nut? or does it not matter
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matthewmosse
SOHC Master
Posts: 2161
Re: fork oil seals
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April 03, 2014, 02:35:07 PM »
Allen bolt first I belive, that is how I do it anyway, if the allen bolt won't come a broom handle with a point cut into it down the fork and hammered in once the spings are out I seem to recall, though it is a decade since I had to resort to that.
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Got a 500/4 with rust and a sidecar and loadsa bits. nice and original and been round the clock
MarkShelley
Newbie
Posts: 10
Re: fork oil seals
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April 03, 2014, 03:42:24 PM »
Loosen the top bolt whilst they are still clamped on the bike. A whole lot easier that when they are off!
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Johnwebley
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 3740
Re: fork oil seals
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April 03, 2014, 10:00:40 PM »
when I did my seals,after removing wheel,brake bits etc,just drain the oil,and undo the allen bolt,and slide the fork end off,
you can leave all the rest on the bike,
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MikeM
SOHC Expert
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Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 08:03:25 PM »
so whats the knack for getting this allan bolt out, I have a 6mm allen key on a socket but the whole bottom part is spinning
shock is still connected to the bike with top nut still done up tight
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Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP)
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2937
Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 08:13:05 PM »
Mike,
Sorry to sound like a broken record but in my day you inserted a blank steel rod about the same size as the Allen bolt head and belted it with a hammer a couple off times.This acts like an impact driver and usually does the trick 98 out of a 100. The Allen bolt starts to undo, a bit like a x head screw that will not shift.Most costumers if they saw this operation cringed but it worked.
Cheers
Bitsa
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MikeM
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Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 08:20:09 PM »
so its rust around the threads your trying to break ?
this is what I am using
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Grogu
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Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 08:20:40 PM »
I always use an air gun. What you can try Mike, is put your allen in a drill and switch it to reverse hammer. This should vibrate it out.
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Grogu
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Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 08:23:10 PM »
The allen bolt has a copper washer which acts as a seal. You must break the seal. The pressure of the spring should help it from turning.
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Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP)
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2937
Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 08:43:14 PM »
Plus 1 with trig or just belt the Allen key you have in the socket it will come undone also squirt some releasing fluid on it b4
Cheers
Bitsa
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LesterPiglet
SOHC Pro
Posts: 986
1977 CB550F2
Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 10:15:33 PM »
Air gun is the way, or a drill in reverse might get it. If you don't turn the tool fast enough the innards just turn as well.
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'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Set/sit. Bought/brought FFS. Bloody Americans.
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Norniron
SOHC Expert
Posts: 495
Re: fork oil seals
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April 04, 2014, 10:28:21 PM »
Hey mike,u can use that socket,put the fork leg in a vice upside down.put that socket in a t/bar.now turn anticlockwise while tapping it with a hammer.the shock should break the seal.
This is if u dont have access to an impact driver or an airgun
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Bryanj
Grogu
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Re: fork oil seals
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April 05, 2014, 11:18:34 AM »
If they have never been out before there will be some sealant in the threads which is where the air gun works or as somebody else said remove the top nut and spring then use a sharpened broom handle to stop the damper rod turning
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MikeM
SOHC Expert
Posts: 272
Re: fork oil seals
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April 14, 2014, 02:42:55 PM »
so ended up clamping these in a workmate and using the socket allen key got it out,
must admit did not use pressure more a quick snap action and it came out
anyway, got the new seals in quick polish up of bottoms...... did not take notice though of which way spring goes in, take it that at it goes in tightly wound end in first ?
also trying to find in manual how much fork oil to put in?
no 1 way which I think is correct
or is it no 2 way
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MikeM
SOHC Expert
Posts: 272
Re: fork oil seals
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April 14, 2014, 02:50:42 PM »
does 160 cc sound right... got that for 500 four
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