Restoration of Sandcast Frame 5369/ Engine E5479

[royhall]

Nice work Pete. Glad to see your back at it again. See what you mean about the welds. Looks like your going to need to raise some cash for the Sandcast, you may have to sell that F2 exhaust your hiding away.

[JamesH]

Nice to see you back at it Pete. Looks like a lovely finish. James

[NigelWilmshurst]

Nice work Pete
Keep the photos coming
Nigel

[AshimotoK0]

Nice to see you back at it Pete. Looks like a lovely finish. James

+1  Which paint did you use Pete?

[MCTID]

Splendid job....glad to see you back in the swing and getting another 'Old Lady' back to her former glory.

[RGP750]

Looks like i'll be bringing my frame up the weekend Pete.
Great looking job, Glad your'e back
Rich

[UK Pete]

Thanks guys
I have tried several paints , and made a decision that the nearest i could find to the old honda finish is hammerite, yes i did say hammerite, it is a f---cking useless paint when it comes to coverage you have to build up so many layers, the trick is buy a tin of black smooth thin it with 2k thinners and spray it firstly with thin misting coats then a couple thick
It takes forever to dry but i won't be using the frame for a good while so i will hang it up in a warm place and let it set, if after all that it turns out no good then i can always blast it off and start again, but saying all that it is drying quite well
pete

[AshimotoK0]

Nice one Pete as I found a full 2.5l tin of that stuff  in one of the skips after the floods we had in 2013.. bl**dy tin wasn't even rusty so God knows why they chucked it away.. well my gain. What primer did you use? I have a few tins of Upol etch primer but I don't know about compatibility with Hammerite smooth. Suppose I could try a bracket out first.

Cheers

[RGP750]

You may be lucky with an old tin Ash hopefully it was made before they cocked up
the formulation,it is pretty s**t now unless as Pete says 50 thin coats and a day at 90 degrees to dry.
Good luck

[hairygit]

The big selling point about the old formula hammerite and smoothrite was the fact you did not need primer or undercoat, just wire brush loose rust off, and apply, used it  more than 20 years ago on an old garden bench with wrought iron ends, still holding up well, can't vouch for the new formula (E.U. approved ) which I understand is sh#t

[UK Pete]

The upol etch primer is good and when i welded the hinges on that is what i used on that area, the rest of the frame was done with zinc 182 primer
The finish on hammerite is superb if you can get it on ok, as rich says the formula is shite now it seems to lack pigmentation and so needs many coats
pete

[AshimotoK0]

You may be lucky with an old tin Ash hopefully it was made before they cocked up
the formulation,it is pretty s**t now unless as Pete says 50 thin coats and a day at 90 degrees to dry.
Good luck

The CB250K had mega thin paint anyway Rich  , so it will be bog standard then  ! How do I tell if its old or new formula?
A new guy at work's best buddy  owns a large refinishing outfit, perhaps they will bung my frames in their oven. seem to remember I fixed something for him once, and I wouldn't take payment.

[RGP750]

You'll know Ash
If you spray it and the part goes black it's the old good stuff if you have to spray it
5 times and it still doesn't look black it's the new stuff

[AshimotoK0]

You'll know Ash
If you spray it and the part goes black it's the old good stuff if you have to spray it
5 times and it still doesn't look black it's the new stuff

Bit of bedtime reading for you Rich 

http://hazard.com/msds/gn.cgi?query=Hammerite&whole=partial&start=0

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=97920

[Green1]

Great to see your back Pete
Didn't like the hinges I sent you then. 

Mick