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Drew400
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Posts: 512
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Carburettor Felt Washers
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September 16, 2014, 08:35:47 AM »
Hi all,
What function does the felt washers in the carbs perform? How critical is their presence? As you may have surmised, mine were missing and (so far) have not been replaced.
Thank you,
D.
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Clem2112
Midlife
SOHC Expert
Posts: 282
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Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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Reply #1 on:
September 16, 2014, 12:17:28 PM »
Probably to keep out dust and dirt that may otherwise be sucked in (due to the pressure difference from slight air leakage past the carb sleeve) and would wear the carb internals - not to mention the engine
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Lobo
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Lobo
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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September 16, 2014, 02:00:40 PM »
Hi Drew,
I rebuilt my carbs last year & was thwarted by those washers... had a few attempts at making 'em but alas just couldn't get the right material... and so was on a hiding-to-nothing. Their job in sealing the spindle is significant I guess..
Anyways, in my junk drawer oodles of neoprene / rubber etc 'O' rings, and after a bit of checking out suitability with fuel / grease etc these are what went in. So far no complaints, no air leaks, rock solid idle, no stiction to talk of.
Correct felt washers would be my first choice for sure... just saying (I think) you have an option.
Simon
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Drew400
SOHC Pro
Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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September 16, 2014, 04:32:38 PM »
Thank you both.
Helpful as always.
Cheers, D.
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Bodd
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Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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September 16, 2014, 05:08:49 PM »
Mine didn't have any in and still don't have any as I didn't know about them, to be honest I don't much fancy stripping them down to put them in but I did a bit of searching and on another forum the general consensus is a lot of people don't bother with them after a carb rebuild, I'm not sure what to do now. Do you know the size of them ? There are quite a lot of felt washers on ebay of varying sizes that may do the job, similar to
these
, also being a drummer I have quite a few felt cymbal washers lying around I could possibly modify.
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Drew400
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Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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September 16, 2014, 05:30:34 PM »
Hi Bod,
I'm a guitarist and so have access to my drummer mate's cymbal washers!
Cheers, D.
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rockvegas400
Newbie
Posts: 14
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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Reply #6 on:
September 16, 2014, 11:08:13 PM »
Tim Boughen has a guide on how to make these washers in the file section of the Yahoo Cb400F Group. Unfortunately the file is too large to upload to this forum, so you might have to join the group first.
Cheers,
Justin
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Drew400
SOHC Pro
Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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September 17, 2014, 09:37:08 AM »
Nice one, ta D.
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Lynx
Repair & Despair Under One Roof
SOHC Expert
Posts: 401
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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October 03, 2014, 03:45:11 PM »
If you are interested. Instructions on how to make the felt rings are here:-
https://xa.yimg.com/df/cb400f/How+to+make+Felt+O-Rings.pdf?token=KkAd1y8XMJFX72Y-eLfVgwTEa--sX7vPjRjhRXHc-rqXB6wUXwNNPtEyXgtUxRZKBS9swlFLOdXfpKM6JQqczg14Y3a0JeQVl4aISVkoydExYFVGmL_PetkkHDVBop_lKscU&type=download
I had to use different sized cutters but otherwise worked well.-
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Drew400
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Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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October 06, 2014, 08:26:28 PM »
Thanks, although I couldn't get the link to work. Sorry. D.
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Lynx
Repair & Despair Under One Roof
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Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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October 06, 2014, 08:53:26 PM »
Hi Drew. Maybe you have to be a member of the Yahoo CB400F Group to be able to access it. Sorry.
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Lynx
Repair & Despair Under One Roof
SOHC Expert
Posts: 401
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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October 06, 2014, 09:01:02 PM »
I tried to attach it here but it's too big. PM me if you'd like me to e-mail it to you.
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CB250G5
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Drew400
SOHC Pro
Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Re: Carburettor Felt Washers
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October 07, 2014, 07:17:39 PM »
Thanks again Lynx.
Great instructions/photos. Love the golf tee tool!
Cheers,
D.
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