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Drew400
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Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Should I use jointing compound?
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October 06, 2014, 08:31:03 PM »
Hi all,
I will preamble this new thread with the announcement that I'm about to start my engine rebuild. Regular readers will know that this is a first for me and so I'm ever so slightly nervous of turning my restoration project into a piece of non-running living room art!
So, here's the first in probably a long series of questions: should I be using a jointing compound to stick the crankcase halves, etc. back together? If so, what substance do you recommend?
Cheers,
D.
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mickwinf
SOHC Master
Posts: 1825
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 06, 2014, 09:03:06 PM »
I used blue hylomar, a very thin smear is all that's needed.
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Lynx
Repair & Despair Under One Roof
SOHC Expert
Posts: 401
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 06, 2014, 09:06:49 PM »
I'd definitely use one. I used Loctite 5922 non-hardening flange sealant. I think Yambond is the preferred stuff.
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Yamaha RD500LC
Triumph Speed Triple RS.
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CB350K3 x2
CB250G5
CX500C
VF500F2
VF1000FE
Drew400
SOHC Pro
Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 06, 2014, 10:00:22 PM »
Thank you both.
Cheers,
D.
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Grogu
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Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 06, 2014, 10:02:53 PM »
Hondabond but,Hylomar is cheaper
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Bryanj
Grogu
Posts: 12559
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 08:41:45 AM »
Ordinary silicone is OK but ONLY if used VERY THINLY so that there is NO squidge into the crankcases
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Clem2112
Midlife
SOHC Expert
Posts: 282
CB400F1 1976 R1200GS 2016 Matchless G80 1955
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 09:27:43 AM »
Used Three Bond ... They say it's the same as the factory stuff.
No leaks to date.
Other threads on this ie which faces to use it on etc.
I used a small syringe to apply it sparingly(no needle of course)
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UK Pete
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Posts: 2696
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 10:10:57 AM »
Three bond for crankcase halfs, a light coating of hylomar on all the others, that is my choice, stay away from silicon as it sqeezes out on the inside and snaps off clogging up the oil pump gauze
Pete
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Clem2112
Midlife
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Posts: 282
CB400F1 1976 R1200GS 2016 Matchless G80 1955
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 10:44:58 AM »
I can remember when orange silicone rtv was all the rage ...mostly on side cases....nobody would spend cash on new gaskets.
It was ahead of its time that high viz look !
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Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP)
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2937
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 06:50:00 PM »
The worst was in my opinion bloody red hermite saying that if you was buying a bike you saw it and knew what a bodge job
Cheers
Bitsa
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Drew400
SOHC Pro
Posts: 512
400/4 I restored
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 06:59:17 PM »
A most enjoyable and illuminating thread (or is that a smear?).
Cheers all,
D.
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Lynx
Repair & Despair Under One Roof
SOHC Expert
Posts: 401
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 07:44:39 PM »
Hahaha. That is very true Bitsa.
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Triumph Speed Triple RS.
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Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP)
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2937
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 07:51:14 PM »
Drew
Like the smear bit
Cheers
Bitsa
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K2-K6
Grogu
Posts: 6044
Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 07, 2014, 09:51:59 PM »
While I appreciate and take note of Bryan's advice of silicone, I wouldn't get that anywhere near any engine unless it was absolutely specified in the manufacturer build instructions.
It is a very useful material for some applications but just not in these engines with small oilways, and as Pete says you get alot of stuff on the oil pickup. I got a picture of one I took years ago of the oil pickup in a Z650 that looks like a pizza there are so many coloured bits stuck to it.
If all the surfaces are good condition then most of any sealant you put on them gets squeezed out so as the others say only the smallest amount is required of whichever one you choose.
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Bryanj
Grogu
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Re: Should I use jointing compound?
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October 08, 2014, 05:59:42 AM »
As one who worked on these for many years in the trade, long before you could lay hands on the genuine Honda, or Yamaha, stuff we used RTV all the time and if used as said you dont get any on the filter screen or in the oilways
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