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captaink
Old racers never die. ' they just go faster '
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Confirm engine number
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August 28, 2015, 03:30:38 PM »
Hi, I have ordered some engine parts for my 750 Rickman but every time they seem to have trouble with the engine number
It's on the v5 as the original 1979 rickman engine
It's a black F2
Serial no. F2750E 2248782
Any thoughts as to confirming the age
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Johnwebley
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #1 on:
August 28, 2015, 03:36:28 PM »
I always thought they (Honda UK ) used the frame number to give model and date of manufacture,
maybe Bryanj could use your engine number to give you some idea
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hairygit
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #2 on:
August 28, 2015, 03:42:27 PM »
Silly question, but who are you trying to order parts from, some places are much better than others, I have found a lot of high street Honda dealers really can't be bothered to look things up properly, I have even had one turn round and say " Try a scrapyard where something that old belongs!" I was only wanting a kickstart oil seal, needless to say I didn't go there again!
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captaink
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #3 on:
August 28, 2015, 04:11:41 PM »
I just wanted to confirm the engine date as the frame has a rickman serial number.
But David silver says it's a k5 number but it is an f2 engine for sure so later.
I have located a supplier of F2 parts being Suzuki performance spares ltd. they do Honda parts as well and have in stock F2 APE valve guides, springs etc. F2 valves are kibblewhite and delivery of about 2-3 weeks.
I have ordered these so the head overhaul can progress.
They also do the 836cc big bore kit.
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Norton 16H 1924
Norton Model 18 1929
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BSA Goldstar Daytona 1956
Harley Duo Glide 1961
The Rickman project
And the CR dick Mann replica project
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Johnwebley
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #4 on:
August 28, 2015, 04:16:52 PM »
try this link to the US site,
http://www.sohc4.net/cb750f-serial-numbers/
will try a cut n paste
Model Production
CB750 F 15,000
CB750 F1 44,000
CB750 F2 25,000
CB750 F3 18,400
CB750F SERIAL NUMBERS
Model Model Year Production Dates Frame # Engine #
CB750 F0 1975 Jan 1975 – Feb 1975 1000002 to 1015054 2500004 to 25115085
CB750 F1 1976 Mar 1975 – Nov 1976 2000003 to 2022317 2525094 to 2563530
CB750 F2 1977 Nov 1976 – May 1977 2100011 E2600004
CB750 F3 1978 May 1977 – May 1978 2200001 E3100001
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Bryanj
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #5 on:
August 29, 2015, 11:38:25 PM »
Honda engine number always start with CB never F2 so if it is that it is NOT an original number
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captaink
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #6 on:
August 30, 2015, 09:53:55 AM »
Have a look at this picture of my casings, the engine was black , factory coating .
It does not look like it's been tampered with and there's not any evidence that any things been messed with.
Perhaps Rickman added the numbers when new, ?
?
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Last Edit: August 30, 2015, 09:59:36 AM by captaink
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Bryanj
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #7 on:
August 30, 2015, 10:23:29 AM »
Thats not a Honda stamping--too irregular and doesnt look right, new cases come unstamped and I suspect rickman re-built a damaged engine and restamped a number but got it wrong
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captaink
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #8 on:
August 30, 2015, 10:33:26 AM »
Interesting!
It was also suggested to me that Rickman bought the engine new and unstamped and built the bike.
I know v5 s can have numbers changed but this appears all 1979
The engine appears though to have never been apart, there's no sign at all of any damage. In fact it appears in very good condition
The engine parts are also F2
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CR750 Replica
Norton Manx's 1947 & 1956
Norton CS1 1930
Norton International 1934
Norton 16H 1924
Norton Model 18 1929
Norton Commando / Colorado Norton Works
Triumph 1947 GP Replica
Triumph Bonniville 1967
BSA Goldstar Daytona 1956
Harley Duo Glide 1961
The Rickman project
And the CR dick Mann replica project
Sold a few of the Bikes so only got these left
Gt40...Car I know
E type fhc 1964... Car I know
" Greedy I Know
Bryanj
Grogu
Posts: 12561
Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #9 on:
August 30, 2015, 01:14:16 PM »
To the best of my knowledge Honda never supplied complete engines only all the parts but if an engine with damaged cases was rebuilt by a good mechanic it would look original
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captaink
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #10 on:
August 30, 2015, 03:52:40 PM »
The mystery continues !
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CR750 Replica
Norton Manx's 1947 & 1956
Norton CS1 1930
Norton International 1934
Norton 16H 1924
Norton Model 18 1929
Norton Commando / Colorado Norton Works
Triumph 1947 GP Replica
Triumph Bonniville 1967
BSA Goldstar Daytona 1956
Harley Duo Glide 1961
The Rickman project
And the CR dick Mann replica project
Sold a few of the Bikes so only got these left
Gt40...Car I know
E type fhc 1964... Car I know
" Greedy I Know
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Grogu
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Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #11 on:
September 01, 2015, 08:49:12 AM »
Wrong font, Rickman would of used new crank case's with a blank plate and put there own numbers on. Not uncommon
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captaink
Old racers never die. ' they just go faster '
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Posts: 266
Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #12 on:
September 01, 2015, 04:43:21 PM »
The other suggestion was that someone purchased the Rickman kit and transferred there engine and other bits to it, then changing the details on the v5 with dvla ?
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CR750 Replica
Norton Manx's 1947 & 1956
Norton CS1 1930
Norton International 1934
Norton 16H 1924
Norton Model 18 1929
Norton Commando / Colorado Norton Works
Triumph 1947 GP Replica
Triumph Bonniville 1967
BSA Goldstar Daytona 1956
Harley Duo Glide 1961
The Rickman project
And the CR dick Mann replica project
Sold a few of the Bikes so only got these left
Gt40...Car I know
E type fhc 1964... Car I know
" Greedy I Know
Bryanj
Grogu
Posts: 12561
Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #13 on:
September 01, 2015, 05:43:51 PM »
Doent alter the fact that the number looks wrong with the wrong typeface
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captaink
Old racers never die. ' they just go faster '
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Posts: 266
Re: Confirm engine number
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Reply #14 on:
September 01, 2015, 06:21:24 PM »
I split the cases and I believe they have not been apart before but who knows !
The numbers may or may not be factory stamped !
So what's the conclusion ?
The engine was black, it's got bigger valves so it's f2
In the end it matters nothing but as long as the new parts I order fit ...who cares
Question though...... Would all the bottom half of the engines be the same ?
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CR750 Replica
Norton Manx's 1947 & 1956
Norton CS1 1930
Norton International 1934
Norton 16H 1924
Norton Model 18 1929
Norton Commando / Colorado Norton Works
Triumph 1947 GP Replica
Triumph Bonniville 1967
BSA Goldstar Daytona 1956
Harley Duo Glide 1961
The Rickman project
And the CR dick Mann replica project
Sold a few of the Bikes so only got these left
Gt40...Car I know
E type fhc 1964... Car I know
" Greedy I Know
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