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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB350/400 => Topic started by: Fleabie on May 28, 2024, 07:32:55 PM
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Hi all,
I am trying to remove the rose joint from my gear lever so as it can be re-chromed. Please see photo for the bit I am referring to. Has anyone managed to remove these intact ? I've tried pressing it out using using a hammer & punch and also using a press. I've tried a bit of heat too. I am assuming it is press fitted and not threaded? How do people get them out or do people drill them out and replace with new?
Thanks
Bill.
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Oddjob knows how - sadly Ken is currently suspended here.
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There is a wire circlip you need to winkle out with a fine pick.
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Not forgetting Ash! 👍👍👍
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I have tried a couple of times in the past to get the joint apart but failed! In the end I took the complete gear lever for chroming but as I knew the plater I asked him to do his best to avoid damaging the joint and to his credit it came back all ok. I don’t know anyone who has managed to separate the joint to reassemble it.
The actual joint is a weak spot on the 400/4 suffering with high wear and becoming sloppy.
I think Ken (Oddjob) on here did try to make a conversion using a rose joint arrangement, I don't know if he completed it. You may find something relating to it if you try a search on the 400 and 500 pages although when he left Ken deleted a lot of his posts unfortunately.
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There is a wire circlip you need to winkle out with a fine pick.
Wow, I didn't know that Ash :o. Well done. Is the bit that suffers the wear the ball or the socket (sounds like a hip joint!)?
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If it helps I'm pretty sure I have my original one that I replaced with a less than perfect aftermarket one. Yours for the cost of postage if it helps as a practice part. PM me if this is of any use.(Yes it is sloppy).
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I plain bought one of these very pretty aftermarket items for my CB400F2. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292633661096
However at least in my case I found the tie rod, that bar between the joint and lever was too long and I needed to use the one from my original, so don't throw away! ;D
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Thanks all for you replies!
I asked Ken (Oddjob) (via text) and he's suggested replacing the rose joints completely, so that's what I am going to do. Drill the stud/ball out of the levers and fit new joints.
I've tried picking those dam circlips and although they move, they are very good at holding the joint together fortunately/unfortunately !