Gear lever rose joint removal

[Fleabie]

Hi all,

I am trying to remove the rose joint from my gear lever so as it can be re-chromed. Please see photo for the bit I am referring to. Has anyone managed to remove these intact ? I've tried pressing it out using using a hammer & punch and also using a press. I've tried a bit of heat too. I am assuming it is press fitted and not threaded? How do people get them out or do people drill them out and replace with new?

Thanks
Bill.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

Oddjob knows how - sadly Ken is currently suspended here.

[AshimotoK0]

There is a wire circlip you need to winkle out with a fine pick.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

Not forgetting Ash! 👍👍👍

[Laverda Dave]

I have tried a couple of times in the past to get the joint apart but failed! In the end I took the complete gear lever for chroming but as I knew the plater I asked him to do his best to avoid damaging the joint and to his credit it came back all ok. I don’t know anyone who has managed to separate the joint to reassemble it.

The actual joint is a weak spot on the 400/4 suffering with high wear and becoming sloppy.

I think Ken (Oddjob) on here did try to make a conversion using a rose joint arrangement, I don't know if he completed it. You may find something relating to it if you try a search on the 400 and 500 pages although when he left Ken deleted a lot of his posts unfortunately.

[Laverda Dave]

There is a wire circlip you need to winkle out with a fine pick.

Wow, I didn't know that Ash . Well done. Is the bit that suffers the wear the ball or the socket (sounds like a hip joint!)?

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

If it helps I'm pretty sure I have my original one that I replaced with a less than perfect aftermarket one. Yours for the cost of postage if it helps as a practice part. PM me if this is of any use.(Yes it is sloppy).

[Athame57]

I plain bought one of these very pretty aftermarket items for my CB400F2. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292633661096
However at least in my case I found the tie rod, that bar between the joint and lever was too long and I needed to use the one from my original, so don't throw away! 

[Fleabie]

Thanks all for you replies!

I asked Ken (Oddjob) (via text) and he's suggested replacing the rose joints completely, so that's what I am going to do. Drill the stud/ball out of the levers and fit new joints.

I've tried picking those dam circlips and although they move, they are very good at holding the joint together fortunately/unfortunately !