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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #435 on: March 17, 2024, 09:13:04 AM »


One more thing I took the + wire off the battery side and put that to the meter and the - from the other side of the Meter to the battery but how do you get the power to run the bike as No lights etc.... I Know its just me but I said I was No good with electrics ha something I am doing wrong ha


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Did you have the red lead in the 10A socket on your meter Mo ? and the meter switched to 10A DC range? This should give you normal power into the electrical circuits and also a means of measuring the current drawn. DO NOT operate the electric starter though ! Only kickstart the bike
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #436 on: March 17, 2024, 06:43:15 PM »
Hi Ash

well that meter I used was an automatic one so thought that would know....... so I will have a go with the Fluke meter tomorrow if I can and see what that Brings.
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #437 on: March 17, 2024, 07:43:30 PM »
Your sitting on a small fortune there Ash.

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #438 on: March 18, 2024, 09:09:23 AM »
Wow, that is a stash! I bet you have enough parts there to build a complete 250 Honda six! How do you keep tabs on what you've got Ash and how long has it taken you to accumulate all those spares. Amazing dedication.
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #439 on: March 18, 2024, 10:38:35 AM »
Ten years ago I didnt have any of it and only one bike ..400F..but just grabbed stuff before prices went silly.
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #440 on: March 18, 2024, 10:38:56 AM »
Forgot to say Ash, I'm only needing replated parts for the 14C carbs. They are way different to the later versions in that spindles and springs are smaller. I'm attempting to bring back to life a pair of 14C's that have been shot blasted so the zinc is damaged.


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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #441 on: March 18, 2024, 11:37:07 AM »
OK then Roy .. mine all 14C but if you want yours plating I can probably do that.
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #442 on: March 18, 2024, 11:45:10 PM »
Hi Ash

I found out why the meter did Not let the juice though it...... as inside the fluke there is a big 15 amp fuse never seen one that big and it has blown don`t know where you can get them.....

Oh Roy.... is the Carb on the right a 14c as that is the one that looks the same as mine ?

 
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #443 on: March 19, 2024, 06:26:52 AM »
Thanks Ash that would be fantastic. Don't really want to trust a plater to do those bits as they will probably end up plating the shafts or something similar.
Yes Mo the one on the right is a 14C.

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #444 on: March 19, 2024, 07:26:39 AM »
Hi Ash

I found out why the meter did Not let the juice though it...... as inside the fluke there is a big 15 amp fuse never seen one that big and it has blown don`t know where you can get them.....

Oh Roy.... is the Carb on the right a 14c as that is the one that looks the same as mine ?

Is it like this Mo? If so cheapest I can find in UK not China.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395247827626

That fuse will blow if you connect as I described AND operate the electric starter.
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #445 on: March 19, 2024, 09:13:15 AM »
Yes that looks like the one Thanks Ash. I will double check and if so order.

I never used the starter as the solenoid to it was Not even connected at the time, I remember I got that fluke meter when I left work and have Not used it on that 10A setting before so someone must have blown it ha....wow that was a few years ago as well lol.

Are ok Roy thought that looked the same as mine which is the 14C
 
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #446 on: March 19, 2024, 01:15:28 PM »
Here's hoping Mo !  ;)
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #447 on: March 19, 2024, 11:56:08 PM »
yes great Ash thank you they were on the door matt when I got home one more thing out the way......what do I owe you for them ?

just need to get the fluke sorted out and I should be ready for a try out..... the fuse I think should take a few days to get here but when it do I can try it all out.

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #448 on: March 20, 2024, 07:58:48 AM »
yes great Ash thank you they were on the door matt when I got home one more thing out the way......what do I owe you for them ?

just need to get the fluke sorted out and I should be ready for a try out..... the fuse I think should take a few days to get here but when it do I can try it all out.

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Mo

No charge (on the needles) .... hoping charge on the battery  ;D
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #449 on: March 20, 2024, 10:02:35 PM »
Hi Ash

Well thank you very much for them Needles Apricated they are now in the carbs and I have re-done the Ign timing and set the carbs with a colortune and she is running great Now well the only real way to know is a test ride But Not yet.

Anyway i can`t make head nor tail of what come out of the meter.... I did Cheat and use one strand out of a length of wire and put it across the burned out fuse just to get things going,,,, yes Not good but it worked ;D but I can understand the meter readings..... so have a look at the pictures and see if you can,

I will say with the yellow connected on its own not much happened about 12.66 Volts across the Battery, but Join the white and yellow so using the whole out put of the stator it was reading 13.1 volts when reving, so would it be ok to just keep the yellow and white connected or will that do something Bad ?   as don`t want to blow up them Ign Modules but it did seem ok. 
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1977 Norton Commando 850 MK3  Interstate ( silver )
1977 Kawasaki KH400 Triple ( Green )
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1975 Honda Monkey st70 Dax ( Blue )
1967 Honda CB450 KO Black Bomber

 

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