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« Reply #750 on: November 14, 2022, 12:36:47 PM »
Shouldnt need to aneal new washers mate, and the weeping is because oil feed to the cam bearings is via the ends so oil can leak from that bolt.
Personally after a rebuild i leave the end caps and brackets off until i have spun the engine over enough to see oil come out at both ends, then fit the brackets and covers

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« Reply #751 on: November 14, 2022, 01:19:38 PM »
TBH they do tend to leak for a couple of reasons, the soft washer is replaced by another type because they didn't know what it was there for or the threads were stripped out by either overtightening OR the thread hole was full of oil when they tried to insert the bolt, hydraulic pressure caused by this causes the bolt to try and lock up, you keep on trying to tighten and it strips the threads right out of the head. Make sure the hole is empty before fitting the bolt, oh and in case you didn't know Roo the brackets hanging off that bolt are handed, stamped left and right. The hole doesn't line up if you fit them wrong.

I'll dig some out and send them down Roo. No charge. I'll send 3 alloy ones and 10 copper, there is an alloy one on the camchain tensioner upper bolt IIRC so one for there as well. Just need to find them now. Many, many boxes of parts lying about.
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« Reply #752 on: November 14, 2022, 01:46:11 PM »
Nice one mate cheers.
Yeah i knew they were handed and my mind refreshed last night cleaning them up. Think I'll bob them into the plate bath with the rest of the hardware I've just cleaned up ready to go in. They're all degreased, just need a final clean up and an etch but other bits being fiddled with before  I get to that. just prepping for when the frame comes back then I can get the motor in, swing arm on and the center stand. At least it can be upright and a bit easier to manage in the shed than all over the place in bits. Ive just a tray full to plate up then ;m good to go

I've been round the whole block and covers etc, every hole cleaned and rerun with a tap to get them all super clean but thats another for the memory bank like, cheers ;)
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« Reply #753 on: November 17, 2022, 01:57:13 AM »
OK, I was asked a question today on a subject that I had completely over lookedon my 550 quest and one that Ireally should have looked up. A pal who's done similar activities to me was talking about my hubs and askedif there was any off et on the rear,hid exact question was, "Have you a rim offset dimension or mark on the hub where the centre line of the rim needs to be or is there a dimension that you have to work with?". I don't even know if there is one!

.........Is there one and if so Can anyone suggest what it might be?

I've not stumbled over much about it on the various pages Ive searched, on't net so it hasn't really been on my radar up 'til now. As I've found very little on the subject can I asume it's not really a topic of discusssion as it doesn't have one or am I just hoping.

Has anybody who's built a rear wheel on one of these, enlighten me at all?

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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #754 on: November 17, 2022, 08:43:20 AM »
No offset on any CB SOHC/4 wheels Roo.
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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #755 on: November 17, 2022, 08:47:50 AM »
Thats only for old british bikes Roo when frames were not straight

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« Reply #756 on: November 17, 2022, 11:12:28 AM »
I know about the British stuff but had no info on the 550, you read so much on here and other places on the net regarding this and that and it completely didn't click that there might be an off set, I hadn't read anything about it so it wasnt  on the radar so to speak.
 After burning the midnight oil last night, that was the conclusion I came to but there's an awful lot on here to throw you off.
Even Hondaman refers to there being off set on a number of the Honda fleet, so you think, 'ooo', better chase that and of course it comes to nothing but you have to check. What a pain in the ar*e though!


Cheers Bryan, appreciate it mate.

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« Reply #757 on: November 18, 2022, 02:16:59 PM »
Sitting down Roo?

Thought this might interest you. I'd advice seeing if they have any more next time you're over there before they see what it's worth.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204156719367?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=90cafac477e54725baa807080c211eab&bu=43136868494&ut=RU&exe=0&ext=0&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20221118070116&segname=11021

Prices are going really silly.

I need a key ordering for my 500, found one, genuine Honda, same key number as mine but the seller won't post to the UK and he doesn't accept messages, if you're going again let me know.
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« Reply #758 on: November 18, 2022, 02:21:42 PM »
Stop looking at expensive stuff!
I have loads of these (6) all without the mesh screens but have the rubber seal the mesh sits in intact so could be rebuilt!


That’s bloody silly money!

Where’s this key and I’ll sort it bud…


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« Reply #759 on: November 18, 2022, 02:28:42 PM »
Someone does the mesh holder on site, 3D printed IIRC. The mesh can be bought off Ebay, get stainless so it doesn't rust.

I have an alert set up so when one comes up on Ebay it lets me know, my BIL wanted another as he stood on his, well mine as it my bike but he's sort of adopted it. So I set up the alert in case one turned up.

I'll PM you the details of the Ebay auction it's on, the key number is very rare, this is the first time I've ever seen one, my daughters in NY right now and I asked her to buy it for me but she's not sure if they'd deliver to a hotel and what happens if it's delayed and she's gone home by the time it arrives etc.

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« Reply #760 on: November 20, 2022, 10:54:48 AM »
No offset on any CB SOHC/4 wheels Roo.


Cheers, didnt think so,a lot of miseading info out there...and from folk who you'd think would know too!

Thanks 8)
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« Reply #761 on: November 20, 2022, 11:05:54 AM »
Someone does the mesh holder on site, 3D printed IIRC. The mesh can be bought off Ebay, get stainless so it doesn't rust.

I have an alert set up so when one comes up on Ebay it lets me know, my BIL wanted another as he stood on his, well mine as it my bike but he's sort of adopted it. So I set up the alert in case one turned up.

I'll PM you the details of the Ebay auction it's on, the key number is very rare, this is the first time I've ever seen one, my daughters in NY right now and I asked her to buy it for me but she's not sure if they'd deliver to a hotel and what happens if it's delayed and she's gone home by the time it arrives etc.

I've a USA forwarding address if you need it

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« Reply #762 on: November 20, 2022, 11:12:12 AM »
Good day fiddling yesterday, grabbed down all the electro plating I’d done the day previously and checked it all. Apart from a few drying marks, pretty chuffed tbh, it came out well!

Also spent a lot of time trying to get the exhaust pipes cleaned up prior to chrome.

 Where the bike was parked on its side stand the skyward facing edges of the pipes were heavily pitted and has taken a lot of time to get somewhere near presentable.

4 hours in and a selection of files more commonly used by vets on on horse teeth, bands of abranet on the drill, blisters, blood sweat and Anglo Saxon and they’re not tooooooo bad

I’m not too bothered about the shallower of the little pits as the chromer will sort those I wanted to get the deep pits and rust build up off them and try to get to a better finish once done. Think they’ll be reet but will probably revisit them before they go to get shiny.


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« Reply #763 on: November 20, 2022, 11:12:37 AM »



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« Reply #764 on: November 20, 2022, 11:12:56 AM »



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