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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2023, 10:49:17 AM »
Comparing the engine- and framenumber of yours to those listed in the first few pages of the various parts lists will tell you what 'area code' yours is - or at least - was. That's always a good starting point to tell what is still original on your bike and what not.

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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2023, 01:51:20 PM »
Wont work Delta, frame and engine were never mated to start, s Ted knows the whole thing was assembled from parts in my garage

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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2023, 02:31:13 PM »
on the original honda switches they stick with the same colour for the same function. Black is a 12v + feed, so on your switch a black would go to horn switch which also includes pass switch, when horn is pushed it sends voltage via light green wire to horn, then horn is earthed via short wire to frame. If pass is pushed its the same black wire via switch then dark blue wire to headlamp. Orange and light blue are left (orange) and right (blue) indicators, these are fed by a grey wire from flasher relay via main loom. White is low beam dark blue is main. Not sure how the power gets to dip switch but either a black or poss a blue and brown as per 500. I make it 9 wires.
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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2023, 05:04:46 PM »
Timely reminder Mick I have a list of the Honda wiring colours, very handy at times like this.
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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2023, 05:25:01 PM »
out of interest i looked at an old honda switch of the correct type and most of the wires correspond to the ones I mentioned. There is a black/yellow that supplies current to the dip switch, on the later bikes remember they have the 3 fuse layout, so when the rh headlamp switch is on the power goes via fusebox to lh switch for low hi switch. On the 500 it has the one fuse so you will have to adapt the wiring a bit. one problem i have found is most of the manuals have the US type diagrams which are not the same as often the headlamp is on all the time so no on/off switch.
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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2023, 06:08:48 PM »
35250-323-013 part number for a CB500 four UK.




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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2023, 06:10:04 PM »
Wire colours  ;)




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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2023, 07:41:42 PM »
He hasn’t got that switch fitted, his is a 550 one, which if you’d bothered to read the thread you’d have known.
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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2023, 11:11:49 PM »
He hasn’t got that switch fitted, his is a 550 one, which if you’d bothered to read the thread you’d have known.

The title of the thread is Left handlebar switch question and Ted has a 500 so, i put the picture on so he could see what type of Left handlebar switch was original fitted . o and i had read the thread  :o

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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2023, 12:10:49 AM »
Then in post 4 you should have read he has the Hi/Lo switch on his, which should have made you realise it's a 550 switch.

Plus I knew it had as I remember seeing them on his bars in his project thread, hence why I asked him in post 2 to confirm he still had the same one fitted.
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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2023, 07:01:34 AM »
My thundercat had a hi/lo switch on the left side. Does that mean it is from a 550  :o I bought a 550 once that had CX500 switch gear fitted. If he put a picture on in the first place it would of been so much easier to ID it  ;)

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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2023, 09:56:36 AM »
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174181090102

Here is the link for the part I have OE number 35200-377-003. Not up to going in the garage atm due to feeling like the living dead so no photo but there is on the link.

Wires 8 in total are all male out of the switch as follows.             
Male Black/Yellow trace       
Male light Green -           
Male light Grey -             feed from flasher unit
Male Orange -                 feed to left indicators 
Male Dark Blue -              feed to right Indicator
Male Black -                    live
Male White -                   Low Beam
Male light Blue -              High Beam

Pass function switch might be internal connection between Black to High Beam.
Remaining two wires Horn & switched feed from right side light switch ?
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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2023, 10:21:22 AM »
Forgot your question, but here's anyway:
CMSNL says: 35200-377-003 fits models
CB400F AUSTRALIA
CB400F ENGLAND
CB400F EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES
CB400F FRANCE
CB400F GENERAL EXPORT KPH
CB400F GENERAL EXPORT MPH
CB400F GERMANY
CB400F SWEDEN
CB400F2 ENGLAND
CB400F2 EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES
CB400F2 FRANCE
CB400F2 GERMANY
CB400F2 SWEDEN
So you could consult wiring diagrams of those models.
Know that: light green usually is horn
                 light blue usually is RH indicators
                 what you call dark blue, I take for blue which is high beam
                 Black/Yellow trace I forgot but was recently discussed in this forum.

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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2023, 10:49:44 AM »
Yes a clash of blues indicator more likely light blue with dark blue for main beam.
Pretty sure it can be made to fit.
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Re: Left side handlebar switch question?
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2023, 11:21:55 AM »
Ted, light green would go to horn and check with avo if it connects to black when button pushed, i suspect the black with yellow tracer is the power feed to the dip switch and on your bike will connect direct to the wire from the H connection on rh switch.
On a 3 fuse later system it would connect to the loom and fuse box

 

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