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Offline Pasoren

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Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« on: November 12, 2015, 06:23:26 PM »
I have a strange noise when using the starter, but not everytime.

Does anyone know if the starter is worn, or worse, the starter clutch??

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2015, 07:54:27 PM »
Me too :D

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2015, 08:47:11 PM »
I don't know,but it does sound like dry motor bearings,
the noise is as the motor is un-loaded,and slowing down,

 try removing it,and running it ,if you hold it ,you should be able to feel that vibration,
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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2015, 03:05:57 PM »
...I'm with John, 99% sure it'll be due dry / damaged bearing(s).

When the motor is cranking the starter shaft is loaded / pushed hard against a circumferential part of the bearing and subsequently cannot 'rattle'....once unloaded it is no longer constrained and will 'rattle' in the worn bearing - hence the noise.

You might get away with a good dollop of lubrication... but likely a short term fix.

(I'd expect an unloaded bench test in your hand to rattle too.)

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2015, 04:33:20 PM »
Bendix withdrawing too slow?

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2015, 06:23:07 PM »
The starter doesn't use the bendix gear principle,  It's permanently engaged (sort of) using 3 roller clutches to drive a starter gear when the starter is operated.
Where's that 10mm socket got to?

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2015, 08:53:42 PM »
Sounds to me like the starter is staying engaged possibly, had it on our landrover once or twice too, think one of my 500s or 550s has done it a few times intermittently , but I have never had a sohc starter motor fail on me, despite abuse. I know the sound well, but cannot point a finger at the exact cause with cirtainty, on my bikes it has worried me then gone away with no actual known fix or dammage.
Got a 500/4 with rust and a sidecar and loadsa bits. nice and original and been round the clock

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2015, 10:40:06 PM »
Yeah it's the sprag clutch withdrawing too slowly I reckon. Experienced exactly the same noise on a cb450 k7

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2015, 11:13:04 PM »
Thinking more about it, I think a few decent oil changes sorted mine, the kind of thing that hondas do to tell you the oil is low or poor. My first 500/4 had oil like tar and the starter either did that or spun without engaging when I first got it, only intermittently but after about the 3rd oil change it got super reliable on the starter and I no longer had to resort to bump starts ( kick starter rounded off too) good thing it started easily.
Got a 500/4 with rust and a sidecar and loadsa bits. nice and original and been round the clock

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Re: Strange noise when using starter, CB550 K3
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 09:00:38 PM »
OK, thanks for the input! I will try lubricating the bushing in the starter motor, and if it helps, I may get a kit to refurbish the motor.

I can probably borrow another starter motor to test. Will try the easy things first!

Thanks!

 

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