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MrDavo:

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I'd forgotten that little pet hate, absolutely useless when you are building a bike from bits and didn't take it apart in the first place.

mike the bike:
I've never had a problem with Haynes manuals, been using them for years.  They differ from real life in that a bolt that takes seconds to undo is sometimes so corroded it takes hours.  Haynes technicians take things apart just the once, whereas we develop quicker techniques and bodges.  Also, theres no cable and loom routing diagrams as per the Honda manuals.  Sometimes the text is on a different page to the photos.
For that reason I use two: an oily one with a missing cover and a clean(ish) one.
Overall score from me is 8/10.

steff750:
 ;) well ash i had to rebuilt cb750 engines with a haynes manuel and at the time  atleast better than nowt and a lot cheaper than the genuine honda manuel. like the saying goes RTFM ,ever since i was old enough to hold a torch i had to watch my old man fix his car in the dark nights and i would ask him whats that for then? and he would say shut up and hold the torch steady lol,  i used to reading all his motorcycle mechanics mags and worked my way up to his bike manuels and car manuels,he would tell me if you dont understand the manuel read it again. and if you still dont understand it ? then read it again until you do lol he was always bringing home old bikes and scrap cars he would say he needed them for spares the garden was always littered with scrap cars and engines gearboxes back axles so from there came the knowledge to tackle anything plus we all have mates who could muck in and help.they was good old days them
 i came first in motor mechanics every year at school for that simple reason and the teacher told me that was the job for me lol but i had other ideas . ended up driving heavy plant i still prefer driving and riding to fixing ;)

royhall:

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--- Quote from: Bryanj on October 05, 2017, 08:09:38 AM ---I have found glaring mistakes in the Haynes manuals (specially brit models), but as you say also in genuine ones. Haynes are a good low price manual for the person who does his own regular maintenance but need to be read alongside a "real" manual for a full rebuild

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Yes Bryan, plenty of mistakes as well. But, how is a novice meant to know what a 'mistake' is if they have not had the practical experience previously to learn what is a mistake?

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when it comes to chrome plated bolts these need a lot less as the surface is super slippery.

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Since when has chrome on bolts been 'super slippery'. Get two plumbers compression fittings and try tightening them. Much harder on the chromed one. Chrome plating on bolts is abrasive.

My problem with Haynes manuals is that sometimes they carry out jobs in a different way to the factory. I realise that sometimes the factory works in a certain way due to production restraints, but surely the people who designed and built the thing know best. I mean, who is this guy in the Haynes manuals that only has hands. Is he factory trained or just any old mechanic they could get to do it? Ive had real trouble with Haynes manuals over the years, and its carrying on right now with a useless GS1000 manual. I am trying to find a genuine Suzuki manual for that bike just now.

K2-K6:
Plumbing fittings are usually chrome on chrome which has a different characteristic to dissimilar materials. Also compared to something like brass or copper as a datum, then I can see your reasoning roy. It's different for each material and chrome,  stainless, cad plate etc do change the torque rating of threads when used. As do lubricants and if the threads have been cut with a die or rolled,  which is effectively forged, without which spoke ends wouldn't survive.
There's a whole hidden subject out there of how torque ratings work and how fixings use elasticity to make secure assemblies.

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