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1969 CL450 US Barn Find Restoration
MrDavo:
Roy and Ashley, sorry to mess you about, but can you both have a look for a plastic speedo for me? I'm looking again for one to match the tacho on page 1 of this thread.
The later style rev counter came today from the USA, and I was disappointed with it, they must take the photos in a certain light so they don't look so faded. I should've paid more attention to the orange needle tip, which didn't look so great. At least I'll have a matching later pair to sell, the speedo is virtually NOS, which is why I was going to use it. I'd already ordered the late tacho when you both offered to have a look for a plastic speedo to match my original plastic rev counter, which isn't faded.
There are stick on guage faces available, but as a pvc sticker, not like the sort of thing that Marcel does for the 750, if it matched the speedo properly and din't look crap I'd be amazed.
Ashley, the CB350 one wouldn't be a problem ratio wise, apparently they are all 2240:60 mph, they tweak for wheel size at the speedo drive end. The plastic face measures across at 75mm, see if the 350 ones are the same, if you want a photo of underneath to see if the mountings are the same, here's a pair on a familiar chequer plate, I must have learned something today, as on these the orange tip has faded right off, so I won't be bidding.
The main criteria is an unfaded face, low mileage would be a bonus, I don't know how hard they are to get apart and reset though.
If you dig up anything suitable, pm me with how much you want plus p&p I can sort it via paypal.
This weekend I shall be mostly washing my lower crankcase half in petrol to remove the crud inside and out. There is a box of bits on its way via Fedex from Mr Silver, who can book his Christmas holidays now.
AshimotoK0:
Sorry Dave just picked this up plus the new posts don't show on main board.
Here is all I have but CB/CL350 plastic has lower speed graduations
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MrDavo:
The 350 speedo goes up to 110mph, as the CL450 was road tested at 105mph that will be fine, Ash. Low mileage fits in with what I found in the engine too. I reckon they only gave the CL450 a 130mph speedo to impress the 'how fast will it go mister?' brigade, imagine holding on to those high bars at 130mph! :o I'll send you a pm, thanks for looking.
This is the exhaust valve seat from the side that had the rusty rings, it obviously wasn't turned over at all for a decade or two. I was pleased to find it cleaned up Ok using coarse grinding paste, I thought it may have to be recut with a special Honda cutter like what Graham has got. The rest of the valves and seats were pristine, obviously left closed. I'll finish them all with fine paste and decoke the chamber when I get as far up as the head on the rebuild.
This is the camwheel that needed replacing, as it had gone rock hard it would have continued to fall apart, worth the strip down for this alone. You can also see the slightly damaged pin that was in the sump, and the hole it should have been in but wasn't. A pair of new pins on their way from USA, then I'll have the only new spare one. :)
Contents of the crankcases all safely contained in the box Ashley sent me a CB750 crank in, I hope those rollers go back in their cages Ok, I didn't expect them to make a bid for freedom like that.
The cases were well protected by a layer of oily gunge which I washed off with the stale petrol from the tank, Also inside where I was surprised how much black sludge there was to clean out. I then applied paint stripper to the laquered top surfaces, got that off then with a brush applied a thick baking soda solution and left it for a while before rinsing everything off. See, I'm learning from the best.
I then applied Simonize VHT silver engine block paint (which I'd left in hot water for a while, shaking from time to time), a bit too blingy for me but a vast improvement, it will look good with the polished outer cases when I've finished with them on the wheel, I made a start with them as well. Question, if I use spray on Simoniz clear laquer over the polished bits, will it likely go yellow with heat, do I need to find a heat resistant version, or just not bother, like I didn't with the CB750?
Johnwebley:
this is a brilliant thread,
keep up the good work !!
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