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What is correct cable route on 400/4 clutch cable ?

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400 Cafe Racer:

--- Quote from: Deano400 on November 15, 2021, 08:41:58 PM ---Hi Dennis.
Not sure if your chrome guide has one fitted but the guide should have a heat insulator inside the guide to stop the cable coming in contact with the metal. Part number 45466-329-000, available from DS or CMS if you need one.
John

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Hi Deano,

Yes thanks, it has the insulator fitted, which I think avoids full heat transfer, but try touching it with a hot engine. I also felt that just holding the cable that close to the very hot cyl head with heat radiation was just a bad move and would heat the cable un-necessarily, when it could just be unclipped in free air. I took the evidence from my failed cable, which was in good condition apart from heat stress inside. Just my opinion FWIW.

Cheers  :)

Dennis

400 Cafe Racer:

--- Quote from: TrickyMicky on November 15, 2021, 10:57:42 PM ---I've got the chrome wire guide plus the so called insulated ring on top of the cambox to stop any physical contact 'twixt cable and head.  Cable still needs replacing approx every two years. I think it's a case of "They all do that sir".  Not ultra expensive to replace, just disconnect both ends, tie the new cable to the old one and heave!  First use of a new cable is like having a new bike!

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Do you think what I have experienced could be the cause of premature failure. ??

Dennis

400 Cafe Racer:

--- Quote from: Macabethiele (Ted) on November 16, 2021, 10:31:04 AM ---Looks like the bracket is discontinued it might be 45467-329-00 looks right as item 217 in parts book its next to 216 the cable guide 45466-329-000.

Description calls it a brake cable guide so maybe not?

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Hi Ted,

Here is a picture attached if it of any help.

Dennis

McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
Thanks for the photo Dennis - mine is definitely missing.

If I can't find a used one I might have to look at making something that keeps it away from the engine.

TrickyMicky:

--- Quote from: 400 Cafe Racer on November 16, 2021, 11:09:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: TrickyMicky on November 15, 2021, 10:57:42 PM ---I've got the chrome wire guide plus the so called insulated ring on top of the cambox to stop any physical contact 'twixt cable and head.  Cable still needs replacing approx every two years. I think it's a case of "They all do that sir".  Not ultra expensive to replace, just disconnect both ends, tie the new cable to the old one and heave!  First use of a new cable is like having a new bike!

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Do you think what I have experienced could be the cause of premature failure. ??

Dennis

Yes Dennis, I think it's the price we pay for having everything all tucked away, out of sight, neat and tidy. Many years ago I owned a CB750 K2, and the clutch cable was routed down one of the front down tubes, tucked in nicely between Nos. 3 & 4 Header pipes, under the points cover, and entered the clutch housing next to the lower frame tube.  For relaxation these days, I am playing with a 1966 CL160, nice long sweeps on cables, all visible, and out of harms way. The instruction book even tells you that you can oil these cables, how quaint!!!  Just to finish off my rant, the ONLY piece of plastic on this machine is the rear light lens. Such is progress eh?

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