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DomP
SOHC Master
Posts: 1140
First start after rebuild
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March 08, 2024, 08:38:22 PM »
Very soon I should be ready to start my rebuilt engine, just valves and electronic ignition to adjust and exhaust to fit, having never done this before what procedure should I follow? I'm slightly nervous about it to say the least, really hope I've done everything correctly.
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1975 XS650B
1976 CB550F1 current project
2012 Triumph Daytona 675
Nurse Julie
1977 CB550/4 Mongrel Brat. 1974 UK 500/4 K1. Honda CD250u.
Grogu
Posts: 8719
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #1 on:
March 08, 2024, 08:43:06 PM »
Most important.... Take a front tappet cap off at each end and make sure you are getting oil splatters, put a white paper towel in front of the holes to see if you get oil spits. If no oil at top end, turn off engine straight away and investigate. Good luck, I'm sure it will be fine.
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Jan B
SOHC Associate
Posts: 65
Everything you can leave behind is a gain
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #2 on:
March 08, 2024, 08:56:15 PM »
Always a special moment. Keep an eye on the oil light too. Should turn off quickly
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Johnwebley
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 3741
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #3 on:
March 08, 2024, 09:34:11 PM »
Can I suggest you fill with oil as normal
With the plugs out, spin the motor on the starter till the oil light goes out
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SteveW
SOHC Pro
Posts: 707
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #4 on:
March 08, 2024, 09:53:27 PM »
When I did my 650 top end, with the rocker cover off and the plugs out I spun it over gently on a battery drill.
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1974 CB550 K0 (with a 650 cam)
1980 CB650
2000 CBR929RR Fireblade
1966 Lambretta LI150 Series 3
1981 RD350LC
1972 Raleigh Chopper
1974 Raleigh Tomahawk
2011 Henry Hoover
McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
Posts: 8622
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #5 on:
March 08, 2024, 10:29:29 PM »
If you fill the oil via the two sides of the tapett covers that puts a tad up top as well.
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
Bryanj
Grogu
Posts: 12561
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #6 on:
March 08, 2024, 10:34:00 PM »
Big thing is DO NOT turn the engine over with the big nut at points end with plugs in, otherwise just follow manual for tappets and whatever instructions you have for electronic
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DomP
SOHC Master
Posts: 1140
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #7 on:
March 08, 2024, 11:32:11 PM »
Thanks all, some really good suggestions there. I'll let you know how I get on🤞
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1975 XS650B
1976 CB550F1 current project
2012 Triumph Daytona 675
davidcumbria
Such great knowledge and support on here 👍
SOHC Expert
Posts: 305
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #8 on:
March 09, 2024, 08:29:36 AM »
There’s that big oilway under the crank and the one from the filter to the oil pump. I managed to get a good volume of oil down the oil pressure switch hole on the pump before first turnings with plugs out. Some say uneccessary but I’m glad I did and the oil pressure light went out immediately on the second burst after one short effort of say 3 seconds seconds getting the oil round. Ever since it’s been immediately out.
The actual start with plugs in took a fair bit of cranking before it fired up on one then two then three cylinders. This seems to be to get fuel through because after that first time it fires on the button even after not starting for a week.
Good luck Dom.
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500/4 in 79. No bikes for 30 years. 750/4 in 2013, 550/4 in 2023. Also own R1100GS, RD350LC YPVS , Yamaha fazer 600, Yamaha XT250, BmwR80 , HondaVT1300, Royal Alloy GT125.
Spitfire
SOHC Master
Posts: 1940
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #9 on:
March 09, 2024, 09:41:35 AM »
Be patient, it took ages for the oil light on my 750 to go out on first start up but I persevered and did not fire her up until it did.
Cheers
Dennis
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1977 CB750F2 In bits
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mickwinf
SOHC Master
Posts: 1827
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #10 on:
March 09, 2024, 10:05:07 AM »
On my rebuild of Lazarus (see my video of first start) it took a few seconds for oil light to go out, it would not go out just cranking on starter. I did make sure I had lots of oil and graphogen on assembly and as advised by Julie take the tappet caps of to check, on my video you can clearly see it splashing out. Make sure the carb bowls are full and good luck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOScVJ4W2fs
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Laverda Dave
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 3628
Health is wealth
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #11 on:
March 09, 2024, 10:07:30 AM »
I used the kickstart to build some oil pressure or at least fill the oilways before using the electric foot.
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1977 Rickman Honda CR750
1999 Honda VFR 800FX
1955 750 Dresda Triton
1978 Moto Morini 350 Sport
1978 Honda CB400/4 'The Flying Banana'
1982 Laverda 120 Jota
2020 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
1990 Honda VFR400R NC30
McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
Posts: 8622
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #12 on:
March 09, 2024, 10:41:35 AM »
It will certainly be a Buzz for you when you first fire your bike up Dom.
You will panic if you hear any sort of unexpected noise or if it stalls after a few seconds.
Before you know it your apprehension wil be filled with joy.
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
Laverda Dave
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 3628
Health is wealth
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #13 on:
March 09, 2024, 10:46:15 AM »
I soak the oil filter by pouring oil over it a few times in its housing before bolting it in place. It is surprising how much oil those things soak up. It's a bit messy but it saves a vital few seconds of dead oil time.
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1977 Rickman Honda CR750
1999 Honda VFR 800FX
1955 750 Dresda Triton
1978 Moto Morini 350 Sport
1978 Honda CB400/4 'The Flying Banana'
1982 Laverda 120 Jota
2020 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
1990 Honda VFR400R NC30
McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
Posts: 8622
Re: First start after rebuild
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Reply #14 on:
March 09, 2024, 12:30:18 PM »
I remember when it was fashionable to install aftermarket pre-oilers on some more modern cars (post 1960), some had a pump system to obtain oil pressure before engine cranking began.
The design that I thought was neat consisted of an oil canister that had a servo that emptied the oil into the galleries via an oil filter housing connection. They all enabled positive oil pressure before the engine was cranked over. I believe some classic car owners fitted them when there was plenty of space under the bonnet.
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
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