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Offline Johnny4428

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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2025, 10:21:58 PM »
Definitely too good to be fitted under a standard clutch cover! It’s not one bit OTT!😂😂
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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2025, 10:39:25 PM »
Ohh, I forgot this little project.

Basket. You can see the rivet holes have been tapped to 6mm.

So this bolts back up and not riveted Ken? Never really read about details of rubber replacement on these clutches.
One day I'll have the time to restore it, not just talk and dream....

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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2025, 12:03:36 AM »
Ohh, I forgot this little project.

Basket. You can see the rivet holes have been tapped to 6mm.

So this bolts back up and not riveted Ken? Never really read about details of rubber replacement on these clutches.

Max a former member   has made a few batches of the rubbers for a couple of different models, I think he will also thread your old basket if needed.
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Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2025, 12:10:35 AM »
Yeah, it’s the same way the 400 clutch basket rubbers are done. You drill out the rivets, tap the holes, they are the right size for tapping already, dismantle the basket and replace the rubbers, reassemble using locktite on the new bolts. The hard part is finding the new rubbers and finding the right sized bolts, the heads must be no bigger than 3mm in height or they’ll hit the mechanism behind the clutch.

Grommitdog sourced the bolts, I imported the rubbers. The seller refuses to post outside Europe so I asked someone in Europe to buy me 6 sets, wasn’t cheap. Each set is around £55-60.

Max btw doesn’t do the 500/550 clutches, only the 400
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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2025, 12:29:56 AM »
I've just looked at Max's ebay shop, he does quite a bit of bike stuff now.

.https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3542580.m47492.l71970&_ssn=hay_2506
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2025, 02:21:43 PM »
On the side-stand thing, I was thinking of painting mine a bright colour on the end so I notice it when I lean down to turn the ignition key.  Another idea I pondered was to attach a piece of rubber hose on the end and hold in place with jubilee clip.  I haven't tried either of these so cannot validate their efficacy.

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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2025, 02:40:57 PM »
A switch that does not allow the engine to run when the side stand is down is a simple & effective idea.
It's a shame they are not easy to retro fit.

IIRC my XJ900F had one, I was quite baffled one day when I could not ride off after filling it with petrol.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2025, 02:46:30 PM »
I've just looked at Max's ebay shop, he does quite a bit of bike stuff now.

.https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3542580.m47492.l71970&_ssn=hay_2506

Almost all the 500 stuff that Max sells was done for me, I kept suggesting stuff for him to copy and he obliged. Much missed on here, a great resource, shame he felt he had to leave. He also does the carb rod for the 500/550, I still have a few spare if anyone wants one, cheaper than Max is currently selling BTW as he did a few for me and reduced the price a little, £50 inc P&P. One thing that's missing off his Ebay shop for some reason are the 2 bolts for the 500/550 torque arm, first things he did IIRC, they fit through the brake plate and the bracket on the swinging arm, did a really good job of copying them. I wanted him to do the 2 large rear engine hanger bolts as well but he'd left by the time I came up with the idea. I think they'd sell well.
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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2025, 02:47:40 PM »
A switch that does not allow the engine to run when the side stand is down is a simple & effective idea.
It's a shame they are not easy to retro fit.

IIRC my XJ900F had one, I was quite baffled one day when I could not ride off after filling it with petrol.

And probably the easiest to wire up as well, just splice into the black/white wire and job done.
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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2025, 06:52:21 PM »
I've just looked at Max's ebay shop, he does quite a bit of bike stuff now.

.https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3542580.m47492.l71970&_ssn=hay_2506

Almost all the 500 stuff that Max sells was done for me, I kept suggesting stuff for him to copy and he obliged. Much missed on here, a great resource, shame he felt he had to leave. He also does the carb rod for the 500/550, I still have a few spare if anyone wants one, cheaper than Max is currently selling BTW as he did a few for me and reduced the price a little, £50 inc P&P. One thing that's missing off his Ebay shop for some reason are the 2 bolts for the 500/550 torque arm, first things he did IIRC, they fit through the brake plate and the bracket on the swinging arm, did a really good job of copying them. I wanted him to do the 2 large rear engine hanger bolts as well but he'd left by the time I came up with the idea. I think they'd sell well.

You can try sending him an email Ken as I did when I asked him if he could make a carb spindle for my 400/4. He obliged and a cracking piece of work it is, a straight swap and it will never rust.
Yes, I agree, a shame he left the forum.
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Re: Ken's (oddjob) 500/4 resto??? Where are you with it?
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2025, 08:24:24 PM »
I agree, whoever took part in driving Max away from our forum should hang their head(s) in shame.
He made me a set of wheel spacers for my Superdream, top bloke.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

 

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